Debate: Was Muhammad (peace be upon him) Foretold in the Bible? Zakir Hussein vs Samuel Green


بِسۡمِ ٱللهِ ٱلرَّحۡمَـٰنِ ٱلرَّحِيمِ ,

Another excellent debate from the up and coming debater, Br. Zakir Hussein. Eloquent in his speech, spot on in his arguments, well articulated rebuttals and most importantly he stayed on topic. Samuel Green attempted to refute him a few times, but got carried away, you’ll notice that Br. Zakir played a bit of logic on Samuel and used the same method of finding prophecies of Christ in the Old Testament and applied it to his own agenda. Thereby allowing Samuel to argue against his own methodology, pure brilliance from Br. Zakir.

wa Allaahu ‘Alam.

2 comments

  • some interesting quotes for the audience here

    christian:
    It was not unusual that the name was given by the mother. Rather it was common practice….

    jew:
    What gives you that idea? Wrong − children were named by their fathers. It was only in very early times (before the Torah was given at Mount Ḥorév) that a mother could (in normal circumstances) formally name her own child. This is why the prophet’s prediction that the baby Immanu’él would be named by his mother was so striking. It is inappropriate for christians like you to make such wide, sweeping statements about Judaism and Jewish culture and practices because, when you do, you invariably get it wrong

    christian:
    Who gave the name is not the issue: but the name itself: ‘God with us’, and the message.

    jew:
    The two Hebrew words עִמָּֽנוּ אֵל immanu él do not mean “God with us”, they actually mean “With us [is]” (עִמָּֽנוּ immanu) “God” (אֵל él), i.e God is with us”. And the “message” was for the 8th century BCE king Aḥaz of Y’hudah, and for him alone, because only he was being threatened by Pekaḥ and R’tzin. Why do you christians insist on continually stealing “messages” that were only ever addressed to (and intended for) us, and pretending that they also have some “relevance” to you?

    jew:
    And yet it IS an issue because the story in Mattai, and even more explicitly that in Lukos, clearly claim that she was virgo intacta, and Matthew intoduces his phony “quote” with the words: Τοῦτο δὲ ὅλον γέγονεν ἵνα πληρωθῇ τὸ ῥηθὲν ὑπὸ τοῦ Κυρίου, διὰ τοῦ προφήτου “All this took place to fulfill what the Lord had said through the prophet”. So, however much you wriggle and squirm, you cannot change the simple fact that, having told a ridiculous story about a VIRGIN who has a baby, the writer of “Matthew” tries to pretend that his preposterous story WAS FORETOLD by the Hebrew prophet Y’shayahu.

  • The question that most of us ask now, arose before during the time of Muhammad s.a.w; preaching the words of God onto Arabia. Was Muhammad mentioned? This was the question by inhabitants of Arabia towards Jews that embraced Islam. And if we refer to the claim by past Jewish converts, they had quote verses from Isaiah 42.

    Lets look at the passages in Isaiah. God address His chosen servants with their names, and in the prophesied verse we see God mention clearly the prophet’s name. Some examples of God mentioning His servant by name.
    (My Servant Isaiah, My Servant Eliakim, David My Servant, Jacob My Servant, My Servant Israel, and so in Isaiah 42:1 , God specifically mention My Servant Ahmad)

    In Isaiah 42:1, it is deemed not a coincidence upon seeing the writing of both אתמך (Atmc) אחמד (Ahmd). And the word before אתמך (Atmc), is עבדי (Abdi~My Servant). For indeed, it is indicating Ahmad; Abdullah (Ahmad; Servant of God).

    Not to mention אתמך (Atmc) happen to be a special term foretelling the coming of a righteous man and is used only ONCE throughout the entire Book. [could this be a copying error or an intended error?]

    ~~
    The prophecy tells about Ahmad; ‘Servant of God’ whom will war to correct the wrongs and bringing judgement based on the law of God. He will liberate act of worshiping molten images and thus Arabia (wilderness desert, villages and cities) will glorify God since then. As can be seen today, Arabia are worshiping,praising God and singing words of God daily. Inhabitants from all around the world gather there and voice out loud their praise to God.

    And we continue reading Isaiah 42:18 – 25; God remind the ‘blind and deaf’ about the wrath of God towards Children of Israel, whom neglect the message brought by past Servant of God.

    And not to repeat; the same mistake upon the coming of the new Servant of God

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