Conversation With an Angry Christian

Christtheway24 is angry at me, I’m a snake because I believe the New Testament is demonstrably and undeniably corrupted and unreliable. Here’s a sample of one of his angry rants on Paltalk. The audio is a bit raspy, but his speaking is loud and clear, the ticking in the background is my typing (via text) responding to him while he’s speaking. 

To bounce is to ban someone from the room (virtual meeting place), so after I gave my cordial response to him – he bounced me. 

and Allaah knows best.

 

Irony at its best, but atleast he’s honest…

Here’s a Christian telling me what’s wrong with understanding the Christian God:

3  Hinduism, Islam and Christianity Friendly discussion

What a nice guy, admitting the problem is his own set of beliefs. Don’t often find missionaries conceding this so quickly. Another missionary mishap to enjoy!

Update: Apparently, my friend Innocent is angry about this being posted, so he’d like me to provide the ‘context’ of our conversation, so here it is, directly from him:

Innocent Habonimana: If you want to be taken seriously represent my beliefs as they are , if you know them, and we will debate. If you cannot , I am not coming down to your level.
il y a 34 minutes · Modifié · J’aime

Ijaz Ahmad: Innocent Habonimana,

But you and I already know your beliefs.

God (YHWH) is one (being) in three persons (Father, Son HS). Do you agree or disagree? We’ll get to the hypostatic union later. Do you agree on this, or do you disagree?

For a multiple personality disorder you need one being, who has multiple and distinct personalities (for example, God who is one, has three personalities, this fits the disorder).
il y a 32 minutes · J’aime

Ijaz Ahmad : Innocent Habonimana, unless you want me to refer to the Creeds established by the Ecumenical Councils to give the understanding of God you desire? Because if you think I don’t understand your Graeco-Roman, Demi-God, you are quite mistaken. What was the last book you studied on the theology of your God? Let us know
il y a 31 minutes · J’aime

Innocent Habonimana : You know the problem that you have is that in your mind you think of God in a human form!
il y a 29 minutes · J’aime

Well, unfortunately, that made the situation worse for our friend, but that’s okay, he asked for me to post this.

and Allaah knows best.

Free Dr. Anthony Buzzard Books Until 5th October (2013)

Dr. Anthony Buzzard, the world’s currently most important Unitarian (anti-Trinitarian) figure has put all of his published titles on Amazon for free download starting today. See his Facebook status here.

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Click this link to go to the Amazon page for all his published titles on the Amazon store. His writings and videos clearly demonstrate that the heresy of the Trinity cannot be proved from the texts of the Old or New Testaments.

Sam Shamoun’s Christian Followers are Mentally Ill

Update: Sent an email to Shamoun about his followers’ behaviour, I don’t expect a response since he condones these actions. If in the off chance he has the testicular fortitude to respond, I’ll gladly make it public – then again, he’s running away from me, so I wouldn’t expect that much.

Last night I had the unfortunate incident of finding myself the focus of attention for a group of Sam Shamoun worshipers on Paltalk, via a room named, “Dawah vs Christian Missionaries“. Traditionally, I don’t expect much from Paltalk Christian Missionaries, but I jumped in to see what all the fuss was about.

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Turns out, it’s a room full of Sam Shamoun supporters who did what their master taught them best. For a period of 10 minutes, I listened as various men and women belonging to the Christian faith, took an opportunity to speak out against me and the writings on this website. I stayed in the off chance that perhaps they’d offer some meaningful criticism, to the contrary I was cursed at by these group of Christian, Sam Shamoun fans by being called repeatedly:

  • Muslim beast.
  • Dumbass.
  • Idiot.
  • Fool.
  • Jackass.
  • Coward.
  • Child.

This unfortunately, is the legacy of the work of Sam Shamoun, his biggest fans on Paltalk (who had just announced a new recording of one of his lectures on the Jewish Saints being saved by Christ), found it appropriate (even the women amongst them) to engage in a tirade filled with abusive language and curse words. As a Muslim, I didn’t respond to them, there is no profit in me cursing anyone or behaving as if I am a petulant child. I think it’s very sad that many consider these missionaries to be representative of the Christian faith and it’s even more sad to know, that after Shamoun has left us, this will be the legacy he’d leave behind: foul mouthed angry zealots.

We pray for their guidance and I wish to let them know, all of them (CBD, Fyreflye, Dr. Chillosophy, etc), I forgive you because I’m a Muslim and I pray that one day you realise what you’re doing is not inviting me to Christianity by shouting and screaming and insulting me, you’re making yourselves look very desperate and unwilling to engage Muslims on an intellectual basis and have reduced your preaching Christianity to nothing more than insulting others to make yourselves feel better/ stroking your own egos.

I apologize to the Muslims who stayed in that room to listen to see what I would have told those missionaries, but I do not respond to threats or curses and I only stayed for those brief minutes in the hope that they would have the decency to realise what they were doing.

and Allaah knows best.

The Corruption of the Qur’aan

I’ve read many books, posts, comments, emails regarding the corruption of the Qur’aan, on that note I’ve read the same about the Bible, moreso about the New Testament. Yet, something’s appeared to me that hasn’t been discussed much, if at all before. In discussing the reliability of the Graeco-Roman New Testament, the easiest claims to digest are those of the floating passages, either emendations or interpolations – their presence qualifies the argument of the unreliability of the New Testament.

When it comes to the Qur’aan however, there is a very strange occurrence, it says of itself:

Indeed, it is We who sent down the Qur’an and indeed, We will be its guardian. – Al Hijr 15:9.

The most popular argument against the Qur’aan being the Sana’aa Manuscripts has been debunked by studies that have only been partially quoted by Orientalists, and the argument concerning the differing number of ayat don’t consider that you can stop, pause or continue through many verses – thus giving varying lengths to one verse. Yet, we must ask ourselves a very important question concerning the corruption of the Qur’aan.

If it is so easy to have corrupted the Qur’aan, then why, after 1434 years (as of the time of this posting), has no extant edition of the Qur’aan, put the basmallah (bismillahir rahmanir raheem) at the top of Surah 9 (at-Tawbah/ al-Bara’ah). Thinking clearly for a moment, in comparison to the New Testament, the addition of a few verses (Mark 16:9-20) or the addition of a chapter after its clear ending (see John 20:30-31 vs John 21) or the dispute of entire books, see the Revelation of John vs the Revelation of Peter, it has always been easy to spot where scribes have found it all to easy to make a correction (emendation) or addition (interpolation) into the text which eventually found its way into the standard text of the New Testament.

Yet, if a scribe is copying the Qur’aan and for 113 Surahs of a possible 114, you write the basmallah before them, except one, wouldn’t it have occurred to make this correction? Wouldn’t it seem like an error that 1 of 114 is missing the basmallah? Surely, if atleast one scribe thought so, wouldn’t many others have also thought so? Seeing as we recite the basmallah before the start of Surah 9, wouldn’t that give the scribe even more credence to include the basmallah? Therefore, the question stands before us, if the Qur’aan has been corrupted, then why hasn’t the most obvious change yet to manifest itself? It bemoans me to think that a scribe would be so intelligent to change entire ayat (verses), alter words (as claimed by some Orientalists), yet forget to make the most simple of changes – adding the basmallah.

If Allaah ta ‘aala wills…

Salaam ‘Alaykum,

I ask forgiveness for any one I may have wronged during my lifetime. I ask that I be absolved of all personal oaths to any persons I may have taken them with. I ask that if I owe anyone any debt, intentionally or otherwise, knowingly or otherwise, that I kindly be forgiven and absolved of it. I ask that if I have promised to do anything for anyone, or entered into an agreement to assist with anything, that I kindly be absolved from it.

I kindly ask that my works, articles and efforts for Islam be preserved and used for the sake of Allaah and not for the profit of any individual.

This is Br. Ijaz Ahmad, signing off until Saturday, and if Allaah wills, I shall return thereafter.

“الَّذِينَ إِذَا أَصَابَتْهُم مُّصِيبَةٌ قَالُوا إِنَّا لِلَّـهِ وَإِنَّا إِلَيْهِ رَاجِعُونَ”
Qur’aan 2:156.

and Allaah knows best.

Ijaz Ahmad is…

Christian Missionary

Christian Missionary

This message was posted to our Facebook page earlier yesterday. The person posting the message is a Christian missionary who idolizes the Answering Islam team, like most of his ilk, he is unable to respond academically, logically and coherently to the points we raise in defense of Islam and against the religion of Christianity. I tend to think of these reactions, these emotional reactions as being faith defensive. He’s angry at me and I can’t blame him for being angry at me. There’s a lot to hate me for, I post articles that critique his faith, run an organization and work for another that does the same kind of work. I have no problem with being called a punk, I’ve been called much worse, in fact – being insulted is a service to me, because it lessens my pride and keeps my ego in check. I’m not infallible, I’m not all knowing and I’m not perfect. I’m a Muslim who defends Islam and studies Christianity and if that is what makes me hated by many, then I’d gladly accept that hate.

and Allaah knows best.

Our Stats are…..

Our Rise in Views

Our Rise in Views

Thanks to Sam Shamoun, David Wood, Anthony Rogers, CL Edwards, the more you run, the more we grow – these missionaries can’t stand up to us, we’ve been insulted, mocked, taunted by them and their fans, yet despite their intolerant and petulant behaviour, we’ve continued to grow. Since the middle of June (2013) we’ve outnumbered the total amount of views we had in all of 2012! We are well on our way to fortifying our steads, as a thorn in the side of missionaries worldwide (see 2 Cor. 12).

This success is due to Allaah alone, we entrust the future of this website and its success, solely upon Him.

and Allaah knows best.

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