Bismillahir Rahmanir Raheem
بِسۡمِ ٱللهِ ٱلرَّحۡمَـٰنِ ٱلرَّحِيمِ ,
Today’s the debate between Anthony and I, we’ll be debating, “The Old Testament Teaches that the Angel of the Lord is a Distinct, Divine Person in the Godhead.”
27th May, 2012.
6 PM (PST).
8 PM (CST).
9 PM (-04:00 UTC / EST).
Answering Christianity Paltalk room.
Anthony has been trying to appeal to emotion for quite sometime, continuously implying that he believes that since the debate is being held in a Muslim room on Paltalk, that he could be muted from speaking during the debate. The problem is, for anyone who has ever attended any of my debates, my opponent has never been dotted, sometimes even when their allotted time for speaking was up. Therefore, if Anthony has such concerns and if he believes they are real, he is free to create another room, if he wills and we can do our debate their instead. However, this is simple an appeal to Argumentum Baculum, and nothing more than a ploy to evoke emotive support for his weak premises and eventual poor argumentation.
For those of you who have read Anthony’s work, and then heard him speak on his one time appearance on ABN TV, it should remind you of these statements of Paul:
By the humility and gentleness of Christ, I appeal to you—I, Paul, who am “timid” when face to face with you, but “bold” toward you when away…..For some say, “His letters are weighty and forceful, but in person he is unimpressive and his speaking amounts to nothing.” – 2 Corinthians 10:1,10.
It’s quite hilarious to see however, that when I awoke this afternoon, I found that he’d made a post, offering some advice for me. Appealing to Dr. Laurence Brown’s argument based on the Christian belief that God wrestled Jacob. Anthony, among many other flaws, failed to see the sarcasm and satire due to perhaps his lack of foresight, that Dr. Laurence was alluding to. Really, he was asking, “Can God get His but whooped by His own creation? Is that sensible?”. Unfortunately, Anthony’s disposition was to immediately come to the defense of man-worship and state:
No doubt it is intolerable for Muslims to hear that God would do something that sounds so Christ-like, but there it is. And in the Torah to boot. What was Moses thinking?
The problem is, the term used for “Lord” in the Christian Old Testament, alludes to the fantasy that God lost a wrestling match with a man. Something in contradiction with other places of the Old Testament:
- It is impossible to see God (Exodus 33:20)
- God is not a man (Numbers 23:19)
- God is not physical (Deut.4:12,15).
- Idolatry is always defined as the worship of any god that was not made known to the Judaic ancestors when God revealed Himself (Deut.4:35) to them at Mt.Sinai, (ie.Deut.13:3,7,14,etc.) The Jewish people never heard from their ancestors that they were to understand that God has a body or that they were to conceive of Him as physical in any way.
Unfortunately, Anthony’s argument falls flat when it comes to the Judaic-Hebraic Old Testament, which states that Jacob wrestled with an Angel of the Lord and not God himself.
The debate promises to be fun, can’t wait, only a few hours to go.
wa Allaahu Alam.
[and God knows best.]