The hadith states that the Prophet upon him blessings and peace, addressed a group of women in the mosque, saying:
“I have not seen any one more deficient in intelligence and religion than you. A cautious, sensible man could be led astray by some of you.” The women asked: “O Allah’s Apostle, what is deficient in our intelligence and religion?” He said: “Is not the evidence of two women equal to the witness of one man?” They replied in the affirmative. He said: “This is the deficiency of your intelligence”… “Isn’t it true that a woman can neither pray nor fast during her menses?” The women replied in the affirmative. He said: “This is the deficiency in your religion.”
It is related in al-Bukhari and Muslim.
ITS MEANING IS NOT LITERAL
The hadith here uses two figures of speech: the first is hyperbole (mubalagha) meaning exaggeration in the words “even a prudent, sensible man might be led astray by some of you” i.e. a fortiori an ordinary man.
The second figure is synechdoche (majaz mursal) consisting in using the whole for the part: intelligence to mean the specific legal testimony of a woman, and religion to mean the prayer and fast at the time of menses.
Numerous verses and other narrations stress that the reward of women equals that of men even if their acts differ. So this particular narration is not meant literally but as an acknowledgment of the inordinate power women wield over men while ostensibly less active in the public and spiritual spheres.
THREE ADDITIONAL BACKGROUND MEANINGS
Three additional meanings provide an indispensable completion of the picture of this hadith. These meanings revolve around fundraising for jihad, the blame of women’s cursing of their husbands, and the playfulness of the Prophet, upon him blessings and peace, with his female public.
1. FUNDRAISING
The real import of the hadith – spoken at the Farewell Pilgrimage – and its actual context was that the Prophet, upon him blessings and peace, challenged the women that were present to realize that unless they helped raise money with their gold and jewelry, they would miss the reward of men waging jihad as well as show ingratitude.
2. BLAME OF CURSING
In the full version of the hadith the Prophet upon him blessings and peace, also orders the women to ask forgiveness and desist from frequently cursing their husbands. All this was spoken at a time of (1) the impending departure of the latter on jihad; (2) the impending departure of the Prophet, upon him blessings and peace, from this world; and (3) the fact that “Cursing the believer is like killing him.”
3. PLAYFULNESS
The Prophet upon him blessings and peace, was also being playful in his use of strong terms to impress this teaching on the listeners. Ruqayyah Waris Maqsud writes:
“After the Farewell Pilgrimage at the Eid prayer, the Prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace) walked past the men leaning on Bilal’s arm, and came to the rows of women behind them. Bilal spread out a cloth and the Prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace) urged the women to be generous with their gifts of charity, for when he had been allowed a glimpse into the flames of Hell, he had noted that most of the people being tormented there were women. The women were outraged, and one of them instantly stood up boldly and demanded to know why that was so. ‘Because,’ he replied, ‘you women grumble so much, and show ingratitude to your husbands! Even if the poor fellows spent all their lives doing good things for you, you have only to be upset at the least thing and you will say, ‘I have never received any good from you!’ (Bukhari 1.28, recorded by Ibn Abbas – who was present on that occasion as a child). At that the women began vigorously to pull off their rings and ear-rings, and throw them into Bilal’s cloth.”
In conclusion, we need to remove the meaning of the words of the Prophet upon him blessings and peace, from our contemporary context of sour feminism and the clash of the sexes, and replace it into its proper context: namely, a parting, wartime exhortation using certain figures of speech which are not meant literally, nor are women the issue although they are addressed pointedly and, as it were, by the scruff of their gender; but rather, to trigger among wealthy and sensible citizens acts of generosity for the greater good while reminding them that life is fleeting and thankfulness a surer way to Paradise than despair.
Pastor Terry Jones and an alleged Muslim apostate have collaborated to produce a new film on the Muslim Prophet, Muhammad [peace be upon him]. The film was uploaded to popular video sharing website, Youtube, earlier on the 15th of December. Pastor Terry Jones and FFI’s Ali Sina have been promoting this film as a ‘must see’, where it is allegedly supposed to have ‘exposed Islam and its Prophet’. I sat and watched the “movie” earlier today and this is my review.
Terry Jones in the Movie’s Introduction
It must be noted that I watched the English version as uploaded on Terry Jones’ Youtube account. This is not a movie, it’s a bad cartoon. If you were expecting something of better quality than the failed Coptic movie which caused vast and violent riots worldwide earlier this year, then by all means, lower your hopes. The ‘film’ is marginally better and can best be described as a badly narrated picture slideshow of Arab men with the name Muhammad [peace be upon him] cut and pasted unto the images. The video quality seems very low and poorly done, and I am very certain that the editing was done by an amateur. The slides and images seem to have been taken from Google Images and are repeated throughout the slideshow to the extent that you’ll probably end up spending 1 hour and 12 minutes seeing the same images about 20 times each.
If the imagery doesn’t throw you off, then the narration definitely would. When news first broke of this new ‘film’, I expected a higher quality, robust, well produced movie, yet, what I got in the English version is the exact opposite. This ‘film’ is so bad, the English narrator struggles to speak…English! His accent, intonation and tone, definitely indicates that his first language is not English. I really have to ask Terry Jones, if you are doing a movie in English, why not use someone whose first language is English? Instead, the person narrating the ‘slideshow‘, struggles throughout, which creates an off putting sensation as you can literally feel the person forcing himself to cope with his manoeuvring of the English language. In addition to this, there is some music in the background, and it’s bad. It’s as if they stole everything they used in this ‘slideshow‘, from the internet. The music is a gimped version of Hollywood styled Arabian jingles and it is repeated so often, it conjures a great resemblance to the annoying task of having to wait on the phone to speak to an insurance agent or customer care service representative, while that horrible background music is played. I couldn’t get past the first 10 minutes without struggling to watch it, and I spent the first 5 minutes trying not to have a headache from the deplorable narration and music.
The information presented is not historical and borders on fiction. It was during the first 10 minutes, that I recalled the producer of the film, i.e. the alleged apostate, posted on FFI indicating he was a long time fan of Ali Sina. From this, based on my reading of FFI’s Ali Sina’s book, “Understanding Muhammad: A Psychobiography of Allah’s Prophet“, it hit me that the ‘producer‘ basically summarized Ali Sina’s book and was narrating it. That literary work in itself is highly flawed and not based on proper study. Ali Sina’s work simply takes from Ibn Ishaq’s Seerah and focuses on the violent passages within (which due to proper literary criticism are found to be highly doubtful), and from this, he concludes that the Muslim Prophet had numerous illnesses and diseases etc, essentially it’s a book meant to insult the Prophet of Islam, not an academic work. What’s worse is that Ali Sina actually invents stories and tries to develop it into a narrative. The book is so bad and the author was so desperate to insult the Islamic Prophet, that Ali Sina who is not a psychologist, labelled it a ‘psychobiography‘, I prefer to refer to it as fiction. The video’s very source for its information is therefore very flawed, inconsistent and has no regard for academic integrity. Thus far, the video quality consists of:
Google Images of Arab Cartoon Men.
Google Images of an Arabian Map.
Pictures of Muhammad [peace be upon him] are the name Muhammad cut and paste on the Arab cartoon men.
Arab themed jingle music most likely stolen from the internet.
An English narrator whose first language is not English.
An ahistorical and non-academic source for the slideshow’s content.
Do I think this movie will cause riots? To be quite honest, I think it’d cause suicides based on how bad it is. Thank God I had pain killers to numb the effects of the narrators voice, bad music, poor cut and paste images and especially from the ridiculous use of a non-academic source. Should Muslims watch it? It clearly is supposed to be about the Muslim Prophet, but the images, nor the history would have you think that much. The only thing that would indicate it was about the Islamic faith is Pastor Terry Jones’ introduction before the movie, along with a few passages of the Qur’an at the beginning of the ‘slideshow’. I certainly don’t think that this ‘movie‘ – I insist on calling it a slideshow, is going to change the world, make any Muslim apostate, or convince anyone of anything, but it will serve to reinforce the notion that Islamophobes have a long way to go before anyone would be willing to accept their works as anything more than amateur-like and polemical.
Pros & Cons:
+ I reviewed it to save you wasting 1 hour and 12 minutes of your life.
– It’s on Youtube (this was a pro, until I remembered how awful the new layout is).
– Features Terry Jones.
– Horrible imagery.
– Bad editing and videography.
– Lacks academic sources and study.
– Horrible audio.
– Horrible narrator.
Please consider purchasing pain killers before watching this video, it will make you sick from how bad it is. In closing, I would like to mention how ironic it is, that the very man they try to insult and use disparaging images of, they have no clue of how he looked or what he sounded like, therefore their representations of him are not of the actual Islamic Prophet, but of a created man who has the name Muhammad, a production based on their imaginations, not of the real man himself. That reminds me of a pertinent hadith. The Quraysh out of their great hatred for the Prophet (peace be upon him) used to refer to him as “Mudhammam”, which means “the condemned/defamed one” instead of his name “Muhammad”, which means “the praised one”.
In response the Prophet (peace be upon him) said:
ألا تعجبون كيف يصرف الله عني شتم قريش ولعنهم يشتمون مذمما ويلعنون مذمما وأنا محمد
“Doesn’t it astonish you how Allah protects me from the Quraish’s abusing and cursing? They abuse Mudhammam and curse Mudhammam while I am Muhammad (and not Mudhammam)” [Saheeh Bukhari, Volume 4, Book 56, Number 733].
Missionaries on Facebook love to argue. They will argue with you on the most minute of details, in a pedantic manner and obsessively so. In my time, I’ve realised that instead of arguing with these Evangelicals, what I do is present basic logic to them. They are humans, so I assumed that once I used simple words, with logic that even a child would understand, then I’d get the desired result of stopping a missionary in their tracks. Here is one case of this:
You’d notice that from the Christian’s first reply, that she’s ready to argue; likewise it’s also quote noticeable that she’s not read the chapter, which is relatively short. As is the norm with most Christians, the first response is always a denial. At first she denies that non-Christians will be ‘forced‘, therefore I took it upon myself to very simply explain what I meant by being forced into worshipping YHWH. It took her 14 minutes, but I suppose she realised that there were no two ways about it. She suddenly turned from a crazed Evangelical Christian, to a Perennialist! In other words, she went from believing that Christ is the only way to heaven (as is the standard Christian position) to instead saying she isn’t certain of her belief and accepting that maybe all religions lead to the same God, so it doesn’t matter what we believe.
The sudden and drastic change in her position seriously stunned me. All it took was two comments, 14 minutes and we’ve achieved one less crazed Evangelical in the world. All praise is most certainly due to Allaah who has opened the hearts of the many Christians we do da’wah to.
I found this conversation between a Muslim male and an Evangelical Christian on Facebook. One of them is preaching to the other, I’m sure it was one sided, but the abuses contained within are shocking to say the least.
To my Muslim brother, I say stay strong, the more this Christian shows the true intents of his religion, the more us Muslims will be able to understand that they do not love us. They hate us and they hate us with a passion. I am sorry that you had to ensure such abuse from a ‘soldier of Christ’, but this is the fruit of Pastor Isang, an ally of ABN TV’s Sam Shamoun and David Wood. If you head to the Christian’s profile, you’d notice his picture is one of a crusader, they were known for massacring Muslims and Jews for a vast amount of their history. In other words, our Muslim Br. Yemi Lawal is being attacked by a Christian who not only hate him, but if provided the opportunity, would hurt him.
May Allaah ta ‘ala protect him from such evil, Ameen.
I found it quite distasteful, if not outright insulting for David to have an audible preamble before his opening arguments. Usually, this would contain greetings, pleasantries, thanking the organizers, commenting on the person’s experience thus far in the country and so on. In contrast to this norm, David Wood decided to appeal to emotion, mentioning the sentencing of 7 Christians in Egypt for the ‘Innocence of Muhammad [saws]’ film. What he fails to mention is that his own God, YHWH, permitted the killing of children for insulting a Prophet:
“From there Elisha went up to Bethel. While he was on his way, some small boys came out of the city and jeered at him. “Go up baldhead,” they shouted, “go up baldhead!” The prophet turned and saw them, and he cursed them in the name of the Lord. Then two shebears came out of the woods and tore forty two of the children to pieces.” – 2 Kings 2:23-24
He also failed to mention that the blasphemy laws in Egypt are also used on Muslims, in this recent case, a Muslim was charged under it for tearing the Bible on TV. Therefore, I must declare David’s preamble to be nothing more than a manipulative and incredulous act for which he should apologize for. I am willing to accept his statements if they were inclusive of his opening statement, but since this is not the case, I must condemn such an intellectually disrespectful act. I’d like to know if Sami agreed to David’s doing of this before the debate began and if not, why the moderator did not stop David or begin timing once the nature of the statements had resonated with his thought process.
David decided to limit his areas of discussion to two topics, they were:
Islam as a threat to non-Muslims.
Islam as a threat to women.
Beginning with (1) he states:
Islam’s attitude to non-Muslims is a threat to society.
David mention’s what the Qur’an says about Muslims and then compares what the Qur’an says about non-Muslims. I can’t say I found this to be a strong argument, or a viable one at that. The entire concept of considering yourself a ‘believer’ in any ‘religion’, presupposes that you consider ‘disbelievers’ to be wrong and thus for being wrong, God would employ some form of punishment on them. Disbelievers would quite obviously be seen in a negative light, unequal to the status of believers. A fair question to David would have to be, whether or not he realises this and if he believes that there are no negative remarks about ‘infidels’ (a natively Christian term), in the Bible. Here are some examples of negative mentions of disbelievers in the Bible: 1, 2, 3. As a theist, David should have atleast recognized the double standard he was employing, I’m not sure if he was naive enough to believe that such an infantile argument would be supportive of his views, if he did, that was indeed poor of him.
He found issue with the Qur’an mentioning that believers are the best people and disbelievers are the polar opposite, the worst of peoples. Does David believe that the elect in Christianity, those saved by Christ, are not the best of peoples and that the disbelievers, those condemned to eternal perdition are the best of peoples? The hypocrisy from David is absolutely mind blowing. It was of course, compulsory according to common Evangelical tactics to mention Qur’an 5:51, unfortunately for David, as has been stated time and time again, the word for friend in Arabic is ‘sadiq’, the word for protector, military ally, is ‘awliya’, one example of the context of this verse is the Prophet’s initial treaty with Banu Qurayza until they sided with the Qurayshi army and thus caused significant distress and harm to Muslims. Then again, David is an Evangelical Christian, from amongst the ilk of Sham the Shamoun and James White, I have learned in the few years I have been active in this realm of apologetics that this low level of study is prevalent among them. If there’s a cheap tactic to use, be sure that they’d use it.
Might I remind David, that the Jews whom he refers to as his friends in being condemned as disbelievers in the Qur’an, that his very own Bible paints are far worse picture. Is it better to be the worst of all creatures, or the children of Satan? Would David please answer this question?
“You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies. 45 Yet because I tell the truth, you do not believe me! 46 Can any of you prove me guilty of sin? If I am telling the truth, why don’t you believe me? 47 Whoever belongs to God hears what God says. The reason you do not hear is that you do not belong to God. 48 The Jews answered him, “Aren’t we right in saying that you are a Samaritan and demon-possessed?” – John 8:44-48
David proceeded to mention that Muhammad [saws] decided to rid the Arabian peninsula of non-Muslims via expulsion to establish a proper state for him and his oppressed brethren. How would David then measure up to Zechariah 14, where Christendom believes with the second coming of Christ that all non-elect would be ejected from the Holy Land and then brought only to be forced into worship, or else face torture and disease for not doing so? He continued by mentioning, that if Muhammad [saws] did not want to live alongside Christians and Jews in the Arabian peninsula, and we Muslims have to abide by his Sunnah, how can we expect to have a modern society? David is appealing to ad ignorantium, as Muslim societies have always flourished with a plethora of faiths. When the Muslims entered Africa, Abysinnia, what happened? Peaceful co-existence, when the Muslims conquered Egypt from the Roman Empire, again there was peace among the majority Coptic population. When the Muslims conquered Iberia from the Trinitarian Catholics persecuting Arian Christians and Jews, there was again prevailing tolerance and peace. The 4 rightly guided Caliphs and their reign, did not entail any persecution of Jews or Christians, therefore history and a proper studied of Islamic history, as opposed to a prima facie reading of one hadith is the opposite of what is required to derive sensible, and intellectually acceptable arguments.
Continuing with (1) his second sub point is:
Islam commands Muslims to violently subjugate non-Muslims.
He begins with the notion that there is some magical 3 step program that Muslims follow to take over the world, from wherein we then persecute anyone and everyone. Argumentum ad Baculum indeed. The 3 step program he mentions, is as follows:
When Muslims are outnumbered, proclaim peace.
When Muslim numbers increase, they are permitted to engage in defensive Jihad. He cites Qur’an 22:39-40 as evidence for this.
He doesn’t mention his 3rd stage, but logically, it would have to be when Muslims are in a majority. He cites Qur’an 9:29 as evidence for this.
His ‘3 stage step to taking over the world’ plan, isn’t particularly well studied. Whether outnumbered or not, as the Qur’an commands us in 25:63 to say peace even to those who mock, insult and attack us. No mention of ‘numbers’ there. Similarly, defensive fighting is also prescribed when Muslims were in fact, in charge of the first Muslim state, see Qur’an 2:190-194 which echoes similar sentiments to Qur’an 22:39-40, although Surah 2 was revealed in the ‘3rd’ stage of David’s plan. There is a clear false dichotomy.
Continuing with (1) his third and final sub point on this topic is:
Islam’s command to kill apostates.
The problem with this point, is how would one actually know if a Muslim has left Islam? The only reason one would know if a Muslim left Islam, is if he publicly declared it, therefore inviting the punishment upon himself. There is no room in Islam for punishing a person without reason. The person can leave the nation where Islam is dominant and avoid the punishment, or remain in the nation while openly condemning Islam and mocking it, thereby earning a punishment for such a crime. The same can be seen in ‘free and secular Western nations’, where dissidents undergo torture and renditions where they are imprisoned indefinitely and oppressed, not to mention that the punishment for treason is overwhelmingly death.
David then moved on to his second main topic, “The Status of Women According to Islam”. He begins by stating that Islam ‘drastically reduces the status of women’, despite the fact that the very first University in the world was started by a Muslim woman. His arguments were shoddy at best, he found problems with the Prophet [saws] asking spouses not to do actions which displeased each other, he even attacked the traditional heterosexual familial hierarchy where the man (usually the breadwinner) in most societies is seen as a figurehead in the home. This leads me to question David’s concept of women, doe she truly believe that there is an issue with not doing acts which displeases a spouse? Would that then mean, he approves of doing acts which displeases a spouse? I wouldn’t consider David an expert on marriage relations, but that is probably the worst advice you can receive on relationship counselling. Furthermore, does David accept the notion that a man does not have to lead a household, if so, is he willing to have his wife (if he is to be married, or if he is, I don’t kn0w) be the sole earner for his behalf and his protector in the event of a violent incident? This is clearly what his arguments are demonstrating.
David also found issue with Qur’an 2:23, which explains the sexual acts which are permitted in the Muslim marriage. I suppose that David does not accept stipulations when it comes to his sexual desires, otherwise, I find no reason for issue to be found with this verse. His first issue with Islam and women, is the “Support of Wife Beating“. What he fails to understand is the language of the Qur’an. The Qur’an does permit beating, but it permits a beating which leaves a mark or causes bruising. If you are fair skinned (in complexion) or caucasian, you can test this beating on yourself. Strike yourself with your finger such that it does not produce a pink or red imprint on the hand. Doing so, you’d find it impossible to feel pain. It’s actually quite difficult to hit someone without producing a mark on the skin. Therefore when the Qur’an mentions that you can hit your disobedient wife, it is really rhetorically letting the male know that abusing women is haram, this is understood due to the corresponding hadith on this issue:
” Right along with this option given to men, it has appeared in a hadith which means that, “The best of you will never beat their women.” Thus, (for example) such an action is nowhere reported from the blessed Prophet of Allah. – (Ma’arif al-Qur’an 2:426)”
Therefore, if beating in the manner that David was referring to was allowed, we would have seen it in practised by the Prophet [saws], since this is not the case, then David’s interpretation of the verse is completely out of context. His second issue with “Islam and Women”, is that Islam allegedly claims that “Women are Stupid“. He refers to Qur’an 2:282 refers to the testimony of women when it comes to contracts. What he fails to realise is that:
A woman is not allowed to be in a room with a single man without a Mahram, moreso with more than one man.
To avoid false witness due to forced coercing, she should have someone alongside her to prevent him from forcing her to sign against her will.
This therefore, has nothing to do with her mental capabilities, but with protecting the rights of a woman. It is very ironic then, that David chooses, he willingly chooses to interpret this verse as meaning that women have half the intellectual capabilities of men, or that they are stupid. I must then, regard David’s interpretation as being representative of his own personal view of women, while they are clearly in polar opposites to the intended meaning of the Qur’an. It is in this light, that I call upon David Wood to apologize to the female community and to cease his sexist remarks against our beloved womenfolk. Nowhere does the Qur’an mention in this verse, that women are less intelligent as men or that they are not as reliable. Shaykh GF Haddad explains this hadith in its entirety, which I recommend that Christian and Muslim alike, read to develop an authentic and accurate interpretation, as opposed to preconceived sexist notions of which David has duly demonstrated.
David’s third issue is that, “Islam Allows Marriage to Prepubescent Girls“. I would like to remind David, that in Islam, there is a difference between marriage and consummation. I’m sure he is well aware of this, but then again, he cannot appease his masters and his congregation without being deceptive. Does David relegate marriage to be merely about sexual relations? In Islam, this is not the case, when a man marries a female, he assumes three responsibilities, none of which are sex. They are:
The responsibility of sheltering the wife, or of providing a shelter for her.
The responsibility of feeding the wife, or of providing food for her.
The responsibility of clothing the wife, or of providing clothes for her.
Nothing about sex need be stated. In fact, if a girl is married according to some contract and she rejects it, then the girl is subsequently divorced from the man. No consummation need occur. Similarly, no consummation can occur without a female’s approval, as well as no marriage is valid without a female’s consent. David’s gripe is with marriage to prepubescent girls, the problem with his argument, is that Muhammad [saws] consummated the marriage, post the prepubescent stage, what is termed as the stage of sexual maturity in biology and Islam. That being, when the female stops being a child, or in this case a girl and is in the process of womanhood.
David’s closing to his opening statement is probably as bad as they can come, he has issues with suicide attacks, but doesn’t find issue with suicide attacks endorsed by his own God, YHWH, see Judges 16. He found issue with 40% of Muslims wanting to be judicially guided by their religious law, I guess David, if he were to be honest, would find issue with the American Government passing laws which accedes to Christian beliefs? If not, can he publicly announce such a position, or would his evangelical brethren crucify him for such a stance? He spews off a few more statistics and ends his opening statement. I would easily challenge David on his question of, “what is the correlation between the statistics from the OECD and Muhammad’s [saws] teachings?“. To be quite honest, the nations he referenced have one or more of the following which contributed to their current status:
Former colonies, therefore they lack infrastructure and wealth.
Recently independent, whereas nations higher on the OECD list had some 300 years of Independence to rule, govern and develop their nations, David expects wealth deficient nations to do so in a vastly less amount of time.
Dependent upon economic aid.
Recently engaged in civil war or have been in a perpetual state of internal conflict post-Independence.
Recently experienced droughts or have been experiencing droughts for extensive periods of time.
Therefore, the notion that it is Islam’s fault that these nations are as they currently present themselves to be, is based on abject ignorance of these nation’s history. Not to forego the complete and utter arrogance of expecting developing nations to economically compete with developed nations. I would have to state that David’s opening statement would have been acceptable some 30 years ago, when Muslims were much less aware of their religion. However, David and the evangelical missionaries of the world are facing a new world, one were 20 year old Muslims like myself can debunk their statements, where mid 20 year old’s like Sami Zataari can refute and debate on a platform with someone twice his age without having to resort to cheap insults, disparaging remarks and snide comments, as David has done.
Sami’s Opening
Sami begins by demonstrating to David, how one actually starts a debate. You don’t drop propaganda, you don’t pass a few underhanded comments, you don’t sneak some emotional arguments in before your time (David took 4 minutes lambasting Muslims before beginning his officially timed Opening Statement), you thank the organizers and thank your opponent. I have to commend Sami on his professionalism in this case. Sami lays the law down on David in a very eloquent manner. He indicates that what David spoke about is largely irrelevant, as those were his own personal interpretations of the ayats of the Qur’an and Ahadith. David’s interpretation would not necessarily be that of a Muslim’s understanding, thus David was addressing a reality that only he, himself would believe. He continued by informing the crowd that David’s real argument came at the end of his rabid diatribe, David only began addressing the real beliefs and understandings of Muslims by quoting statistical information. Sami emphasized the importance of establishing a dichtomoy; there is a difference between David’s personal theological interpretations (eisegesis), and the ground reality in the real world.
When it comes to discussing the ground reality, Sami let it be known that this was his area of study, as Osama bin Laden and Extremism was his thesis’ topic. His dissertation was subsequently accepted, thus allowing him to be an authority, or qualified in the subject area, hence his insistence on discussing this topic as opposed to perceived theological notions. Sami calls David out on his irrational logic, he questions him by stating that what David was doing, was that he was quoting verses and applying it to persons, when what he should have really been doing was finding out what the motivations of extremists were. What did the extremists who carry out attacks actually believe? What verses do they quote? What ahadith do they use? Instead of claiming that verses David thinks they use is proper evidence, David should have really brought forth evidences from the persons themselves. Thus in Sami’s conclusion, David’s argument was more rhetoric, than it was applicable and relevant to the topic at hand. To be quite honest, I’d have to agree with Sami. He’s spot on, David did not address the topic, what he addressed was his biased presuppositions, a departure from reality.
Acting upon his own counsel to David, Sami then goes to Osama bin Laden’s very own, “Declaration of War with the United States” dated to be from 1996. Therefore Sami didn’t rely on rhetoric or propaganda (as David’s irrelevant Creeping Shari’a comments were), but he depened upon Bin Laden’s own statements. Did Bin Laden do what he did, due to Qur’an 9:29? His manifesto does not mention this as a motivating factor, according to Sami, Bin Laden’s motivating factors were the aggressions of the US military in Arabian Peninsula, the US support of the Israeli Apartheid State. He also mentions that Bin Laden repeated this as his motivating factors in a 1997 interview with Abdel Bari Atwan, a London journalist. I have to applaud Sami’s use of relevant argumentation and his subsequent use of first person sources is absolutely sensational. As of this stage, Sami has clearly negated and rightfully so, a majority of David’s opening statement and has taken control of the debate. After calling David out on his largely irrelevant diatribe, Sami delve straight into the thick of the topic and immediately set the criteria for which the topic could be argued logically about. In doing so, and by referencing first person sources, I have no choice but to deem Wood as being out of Sami’s league and as being caught highly off guard.
Sami moved on to quote his own statistics, after establishing the reasoning and rationale of Extremists, he went on to state what academics themselves believe about the Extremists. He referred to a study by the National Bureau of Economic Research which amounts to saying, “civilian casualties in Afghanistan at the hands of foreign troops creates enemies and causes people to become radicalised“. As the report itself states, “In Afghanistan we find strong evidence that local exposure to civilian casualties caused by international forces leads to increased insurgent violence over the long-run, what we term the ‘revenge’ effect.”, thereby qualifying his claim. Sami also referenced the Washington Post which had this to say, “the escalating campaign of U.S. drone strikes [in Yemen] is stirring increasing sympathy for Al-Qaeda-linked militants and driving tribesmen to join a network linked to terrorist plots against the United States.” Thus far, Sami has presented a logical, well reasoned argument that has extensive amounts of international study to qualify his claims. Not only has Sami stuck to the topic, unlike that of his opponent, Sami’s actually going to Western Academia, not Arab based studies or Sami’s personal convictions or his own personal interpretations of the conflicts.
He then moved on to another report, where New York University and Stanford University examined the effects of the US Administration’s drone strikes in the Pakistani Tribal region, according to the Guardian [UK], it entails, “the report details the terrorizing effects of Obama’s drone assaults as well as the numerous, highly misleading public statements from administration officials about that campaign. The study’s purpose was to conduct an “independent investigations into whether, and to what extent, drone strikes in Pakistan conformed to international law and caused harm and/or injury to civilians.” At this point, Sami had actually referenced more academic sources than Wood, cited essential points, quoted the most relevant statistics than the entire time Wood actually spoke. You’d notice that the heat was getting a bit intense for Wood as each time Sami quoted another research paper, he took a swig from his bottled water. Sami then mentioned the false dichotomy of ‘good terrorism’ versus ‘bad terrorism’. When Western Administrations bombard civilian villages, it’s okay, but the moment a villager retaliates, they’re seen as barbaric, evil, and malicious.
Sami then referenced what he called the, ‘smoking gun’ of the debate, he references the Arizona State University’s Center for Strategic Communication’s report on Islamic Extremism which examined over 2000 texts used by extremists dating from 1998 to 2011. The study states, “Other findings in the report raise questions about the veracity of claims often made by analysts. The most surprising is the near absence of the well-known “Verse of the Sword” (9:5) from the extremist texts. Widely regarded as the most militant or violent passage of the Qur’an, it is treated as a divine call for offensive warfare on a global scale. It is also regarded as a verse which supersedes over one hundred other verses of the Qur’an that counsel patience, tolerance, and forgiveness. We conclude that verses extremists cite from the Qur’an do not suggest an aggressive offensive foe seeking domination and conquest of unbelievers, as is commonly assumed. Instead they deal with themes of victimization, dishonor, and retribution. This shows close integration with the rhetorical vision of Islamist extremists.
Based on this analysis we recommend that the West abandon claims that Islamist extremists seek world domination, focus on counteracting or addressing claims of victimage, emphasize alternative means of deliverance, and work to undermine the “champion” image sought by extremists.”
It is noteworthy to realise that none of the passages from the Qur’an which David referenced as a cause for Islamic extremism, was found to be in any of the 2000 texts examined in the report. For me, this is what catapulted the debate into Sami’s hands and ended it. There was no need for Sami to continue from this point, as he had gone above and beyond the requirements needed to overcome David’s rant. Recall that I mentioned earlier, that each time Sami cited a reference from a major publication or academic study, David rushed to take a swig of his water? Here it is in motion, as Sami is about to quote the Arizona State University’s study, David rushes to sip his water, the heat of the moment clearly causing some thirst as it would seem. Sami then went one step further, he mentioned his interview with Counter Terrorism Expert, Mubin Shaikh and the result of this interview is that Mubin statess, while he had infiltrated a terrorist cell, the verses and ahadith used by David Wood were never used by the extremists themselves. The irony of this, is mind blowing to be truthful. Continuing with his trend of using internationally acclaimed and renowned sources, he then referred to ex-CIA, Head of the OBL Unit, Michael Scheuer, who stated that 9/11 occurred due to America’s horrid foreign policy strategies. Moving on, Sami headed to the 9/11 Commission’s Report interview with Special Supervisor with the FBI, Agent James Fitzgerald, which the Guardian [UK] reported on:
“At the 12th and final public hearing of the 9/11 commission on 16 June, 2004, in Washington DC, a phalanx of senior law-enforcement and intelligence officials from the US government arrived to offer their testimonies. “You’ve looked [at] and examined the lives of these people as closely as anybody … What have you found out about why these men did what they did?” asked Lee Hamilton, the former congressman and vice-chair of the commission. “What motivated them to do it?”
The answers to these questions were provided by supervisory special agent James Fitzgerald of the FBI. “I believe they feel a sense of outrage against the United States”, he said. “They identify with the Palestinian problem, they identify with people who oppose repressive regimes and I believe they tend to focus their anger on the United States.”
David quoted quite a few polls on Muslim acceptance of violence, funnily enough, an American poll, established that American Jews and Christians (of David’s ilk), were more likely to justify violence against civilians than Muslims were. That violence being military on civilian and civilian on civilian was justified, both times Christians vastly outnumbered Muslims in the affirmative. Sami then went on to explain freedom of speech laws and their already existing limits, placing Wood’s arguments in the realm of being nothing more than fear-mongering and paranoia. This concludes Sami’s opening arguments.
David’s Pros and Cons:
+ He showed up for the debate.
+ He quoted a proper source or two.
– Failed to stick to the topic except for his final 2 minutes.
– Failed to argue relevant points pertinent to Sami’s sources.
– Failed to refute Sami’s sources and arguments.
Sami’s Pros and Cons:
+ Vastly superior sources from a spectrum of internationally acclaimed groups, organizations and individuals.
+ Stuck to the topic.
+ Addressed all of David’s points.
+ Spoke confidently and with authority.
+ Engaged with the audience.
– Can’t hold a mic to save his life. Here’s a tip, next time don’t hold it.
– Buy a hairbrush.
Today I’d like to publicly confess that I am a Trinitarian Muslim. I cannot change what I am, and I hope that the Muslim community will accept me for what I am, because at the end the day, I’m still a Muslim. You must understand that this is not a choice of my own doing. Allow me to explain.
In 1498, Christopher Columbus rediscovered my home island, the island wherein I have lived all of my life. He dedicated this island to the Trinity, and thus named it after the Trinity, the island was therefore known as ‘La Trinidad‘, or ‘the Trinity‘. By his doing, I am now known, as is the rest of my people, as Trinidadians, or, if I were to appropriate it to its original meaning, we are by our historical name, ‘Trinitarians‘. Therefore, due to Christopher Columbus, my nationality is that of a Trinitarian. How unique it is, that my nationality is named after a religious doctrine that, just like my tiny Caribbean island home, is shrouded in conflict, mystery/ secrecy, and absurdity. It’s ironic to me, that my island’s name reflects upon the doctrine it was named after, and in doing so, the doctrine itself reflects upon the nature of my island home.
Just like the Trinity, this island is home to many internal conflicts. Similarly in the religious Trinity, the Father who is God, gave authority to the Son who is also a God (Matthew 28:18), thus leaving the conflicting question, how can God, give God something God is already supposed to have? The conflicts do not end there. According to Christian Theology (a la James White, David Wood and Sham Shamoun), all members of the Godhead are co-equal to each other, yet one member decided that God – the Father, was greater than Him, God – the Son (John 14:28). If each member is co-equal to the other, how can one God – person, be greater than another God – person?
Well, the answer to that is a mystery, which my country is also, as it’s namesake suggests is also familiar with. See, the Trinity, isn’t really full of contradictions, Trinitarians (the religious ones!), refer to it as Holy Mysteries (see #234), they don’t like that whole contradiction word, it makes them look bad. You must understand, you can’t question something if it’s a mystery, especially a holey one. I sometimes like to think of the Trinity’s Holey Mysteries as contradictions we’re not allowed to think much about.
Perhaps the one place that we Trinitarians by nationality have been beaten, is in the way which we express our local culture, that is to say, who we are. I might be mistaken though, as Christians when explaining the Trinity have also had problems in explaining and expressing what it truly is. We’ve had the egg analogy, the water analogy and eventually we had the laughable, three headed dog from hell analogy. If I were to judge, I’m not sure what’s worse, a Trinitarian by nationality dancing in the streets half naked to express his/ herself, or a Trinitarian by religious belief, thinking that God (glorified and exalted is He) is like a three headed dog from hell.
In conclusion, I’m a Trinitarian Muslim, and there are a few thousand others like me. We also have Trinitarian Rastafarians, Shouter Baptists, Atheists etc. I’m unique, and I like that I can claim I’m a Trinitarian Muslim. It’s sad to see though, that the doctrine we are named after, has sadly reflected badly upon the people of my nation and our national identity. Conflicting, Holey, Absurd and Expressionless, I only pray that God saves us from further embodying the madness that is the Trinity.
Yesterday I came across a post by Br. Paul Bilal Williams, a Christian apostate, Islamic convert. You can view that post here. In this post, he claims that Sam Shamoun, an author at Answering Islam had abused and insulted him. In a most professional manner, Paul expressed his discontent with Sam’s behaviour and then he provided the contents of the insult for all to see. Undoubtedly, Sam Shamoun’s intent of perusing a Muslim’s blog, is to further his cause of converting Muslims to Christianity. Despite all the claims of alleged former Muslims writing for his website, none of them have attained the popular status of any Christian convert to Islam’s status. One such example, is that of Paul Williams. Thus, there is often a lot of enmity and disdain that is often cast upon these new Muslims by Sam Shamoun and his ilk. When we read Paul’s response to Sam’s abuse, there is a clear dichotomy, whereas Sam expresses his emotions with curses, abuses and improper public decorum, it’s quite a contrasting event to see Paul’s eloquence, and mild mannered posts in response to such hate. In reading his article about Sam’s abuse, I was reminded of a verse from the Qur’an:
“O you who have believed, whoever of you should revert from his religion – Allah will bring forth [in place of them] a people He will love and who will love Him [who are] humble toward the believers, powerful against the disbelievers; they strive in the cause of Allah and do not fear the blame of a critic. That is the favor of Allah; He bestows it upon whom He wills. And Allah is all-Encompassing and Knowing.” – Qur’an 5:54.
It is striking how true God’s words are. While Sam searches to apostate Muslims, and whether he is successful at this or not has yet to be known, it is apparent that the Christians who do apostate from Christianity and turn to Islam, find themselves loving Islam, loving Allaah, who are humble in character, but their simple words cause great emotional distress for persons like Sam Shamoun. Paul strives in the way of Allaah, by speaking about his new faith and discussing his former faith in public dialogues, he often engages in discussions with Christian laymen on his blog as well, yet he most certainly, as the Qur’an says, he does not fear the blame or abuse of a critic. In this light, Sam Shamoun, his biggest critic, does not affect the temper, the decorum of our beloved brother. This incident, between Paul and Sam, therefore demonstrates the authenticity of God’s pure word as being truthful, while casting a shadow upon Sam’s incredulous nature. In fact, this form of behaviour is repeated in respect to Br. Shabir Ally who openly hugged and greeted Sam. Yet, after Sam’s glowing show of respect to him, he reverted to insulting and abusing Br. Shabir without due cause. Br. Shabir himself has never insulted or abused any Christian speaker, yet Sam saw it fit to do so to him:
Despite his writing against Islam, debating against Islam, alleged studying of Islam, after 10+ years of successive Islamophobia, he has once again proven one more verse of the Qur’an to be true:
And We have certainly diversified [the contents] in this Qur’an that mankind may be reminded, but it does not increase the disbelievers except in aversion. – Qur’an 17:41.
God mentions that those who disbelieve in the Qur’an, increase in their aversion to it, that they are blind to understanding it and they will only increase in being blind to it. After 10+ years of abusing Muslims, and falsely studying the Qur’an, Sam has only persisted in his disbelief, thus proving the Qur’an to be true. How ironic, that the same Qur’an which Sam argues against, describes him and his behaviour, as well as those he fights against, perfectly? It is indeed a telling sign of God’s mercy upon us and of His intimate knowledge of human behaviour.
We are told that in order to save Israel (again and again…and again!) out of their enslavement by the Philistines (this time), God was to send a saviour (Not Jesus!)…Samson, a holy child, born miraculously. In fact, his mother was sterile (Judges 13:2), so the angel of the Lord came to give her the good news.
What is remarkable is that one of the requirements for the pregnancy, is that his mother should: “Not drink any wine, or other fermented drink nor eat anything unclean” (Judges 13:13). Since that child is a holy child…chosen by the Almighty God, she should abstain of what is unclean. Wine is obviously, in this case considered unclean.
Nonetheless, what is definitely more striking is that we are told that this miraculously noble child, who was chosen by the Almighty God does something contrary to his nature:
“Then went Samson to Gaza, AND SAW THERE A PROSTITUTE, AND WENT INTO HER.” (Judges 16:1)
“Went into her” means slept with her. Yes, this specially chosen person of God, one day, saw a prostitute and slept with her (we are not told if he actually paid money). Really? Are we to believe that? How did God, Almighty choose him to carry His will? Are we to hold that belief in the Almighty?!
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