Abrogation means Allah cannot make up His “mind”!


Another common, yet silly claim. Before I explain the nature of abrogation in Islam, we can easily demonstrate that God also abrogated laws in the Bible.

  • In Genesis God commanded Adam and Eve’s children to intermarry.
  • Christians today consider a brother and sister’s sexual relations to be the sin of incest.

Did God command Adam and Eve to do a sin? No, according to Christian (and Jewish) beliefs, sexual relations between a brother and sister only became a sin known as incest due to the 7 Noahide Laws. Another easy example is:

Lastly, anyone can read where Christ alters several of God’s laws (God changing God’s laws!?)  in Matthew 5. From this, we ask the Christian, can’t your God make up His mind as well? Surely they are being hypocritical in their speaking. However, from the Islamic perspective, Allah says in the Qur’aan:

We do not abrogate a verse or cause it to be forgotten except that We bring forth [one] better than it or similar to it. Do you not know that Allah is over all things competent? – Qur’an 2:106.

Before the revelation of the Qur’aan, each message sent with a Prophet was specific to each peoples the Prophet was sent to. For example, the Torah was sent to the Children of Israel during Moses’ time, whereas the Injeel was sent to the Children of Israel during Christ’s time. This is simple to understand, each people had different cultures and so God sent commandments to deal with the people of each culture. By this, we can understand that it isn’t that God kept changing His “mind” over the laws, rather He sent different laws to deal with the beliefs, attitudes, actions (habits) and culture (norms and values) of each tribe, nation of peoples. However, with the revelation of the Qur’aan, God has sent a law for all of mankind.

Unlike previous nations were entire groups of peoples existed without communicating with each other or knowing of each other’s existence, today I can call Japan and speak to a Geisha, or go on YouTube and see angry Christian missionaries screaming about Muslims, in this age of globalization, there is no need for a revelation to be sent to each and every nation individually, rather one message can now reach all nations of the earth with the click of a finger – one message for all of mankind.

In conclusion, it is not that God changed His mind about anything, rather it is that God sent a laws to cater to each tribe/ group/ nation of peoples according to the state of belief they were in, so that they may be guided. One common example is the prohibition of alcohol in Islam. Gradually alcohol was prohibited, rather than one command prohibiting it completely – in this way, the people developed the habit of consuming less alcohol and thus stopping consumption of it became drastically easier for them.

and Allaah knows best.

4 comments

  • 7 Noahide laws? The article you linked to quotes the Talmud which is not the words of God for a Christian or a Jew.

    Genesis 9 has nothing to say about illicit sexual relations. The article you link to refers back to Genesis 2:24 so there is no abrogation there.

    Is your example of eating pork as abrogation correct? I don’t think so. You are misinterpreting the text.

    Perhaps you should inform Paul Williams that Jesus abrogated some laws by his sermon on the mount. He interprets it to mean that all the laws of Moses are retained and none are abrogated. Which of you is right?

  • Even if you don’t believe in the concept of the 7 Noahide laws, you still have to believe that at the time of Adam, incest was not a sin. Now it’s a sin. That isn’t difficult to see.

    How is my example of eating pork incorrect? Jews don’t eat pork, Christians don’t have dietary restrictions. It’s a very valid point.

    This has nothing to do with Br. Paul, you can ask him about his position if you’d like.

    Thanks.

  • We do not abrogate a verse or cause it to be forgotten except that We bring forth [one] better than it or similar to it. Do you not know that Allah is over all things competent? – Qur’an 2:106.

    Ijaz Ahmad said: “Even if you don’t believe in the concept of the 7 Noahide laws, you still have to believe that at the time of Adam, incest was not a sin. Now it’s a sin. That isn’t difficult to see.”

    My question to Ijaz Ahmad: So which verse of the Bible is abrogated in this case? If abrogation occurs you must be able to give chapter and verse of the original verse and likewise of it’s replacement to prove that an abrogation has taken place. Just like it says in the Surah.

    Ijaz Ahmad said: “How is my example of eating pork incorrect? Jews don’t eat pork, Christians don’t have dietary restrictions. It’s a very valid point.”

    My answer to this is that Gentile Christians were never under what I would call the “Temple Laws” of clean and unclean.

    It’s only to be expected that under a change of covenant there will be a change of law. The Jews went through a change of covenant. The Gentiles did not. The temple law remained unchanged over 1500 years until Jesus fulfilled it.

    Why should there be abrogation occuring in the Islamic scripture over such a short space of time, 23 years or so, when nothing fundamental changed?

    Thanks.

  • “. The temple law remained unchanged over 1500 years until Jesus fulfilled it.”

    okay, can you explain how a diety MAKING A BLOODY go between himself and you means that he “fullfilled it”
    1. LAWS can be either BROKEN or obeyed
    2. how did jesus FULLFILL staying under kosher?
    3. how did your god who made blood and flesh for himself , did a few actions in the flesh, then proved to himself that his own laws have been fullfilled?
    4. if eating pork is a SIN for the jews, then why not the gentiles? there is NOTHING special about the jews ABSOLUTELY nothing.
    5.there is a verse in the torah which tells the jews to wash their BLOODY hands, indicating that yhwh finds no happiness in blood.

    yhwh said,
    I will not hear you NO MATTER HOW MANY‘Prayers’You say,

    Reason given

    because your hands are covered with blood!*

    (WHERE is jesus’ bloody cross here? where does yhwh say that he prefers “sinless jesus” blood over animal blood? )

    Wash, purify yourselves, remove the badness of your deeds from before My eyes, stop doing wrong!*Learn to do*right, seek justice, protect victims, treat orphans justly, support the claims of widows

    Notice that The reason given is hands covered with blood?God wil Hide his eyes and not hear ….because they have bloody hands.

    (lot of blood and lot of SHARP knifes and hands COVERED In blood. where does yhwh say he needs jesus B LOODy cross, his bloody flesh and his and his BLOODY violent ENDING to appease himself? )

    “I am fed up with olah-offerings of rams and the offals of fattened calves, and the blood of oxen, lambs and goats does not give Me pleasure”

    (yhwh is FED up with blood and all kinds of animal flesh, who said he would rather drink jesus’ blood and hold jesus’ BLOODY and cross?

    why would a diety who is FED up of offerings and TAKES no pleasure from blood, want to take pleasure from bloody cross and bloody cup which contains blood of jesus?)

    how can you say jesus’ “fullfilled” temple laws when ot says that the god of the jews doesn’t want them to see BLOODY sacrifices and then feel GUILT over BLOODY sacrifices?
    DID god of torah say that he wants a BLOODY cross between himself and the jews BEFORE they do the FOLLOWING,

    “… remove the badness of your deeds from before My eyes, stop doing wrong!*Learn to do*right, seek justice, protect victims, treat orphans justly, support the claims of widows”

    your BLOODY go between god CANNOT BE READ into these verses and you cannot say that god was preplanning for his BLOODY murder and violent ending .

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