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Fantastic Debate with Pastor Samuel Green

Last night’s debate with Samuel was absolutely splendid. The events could not have gone better than I’d hoped and the experience was certainly uplifting and motivating. Here are two quick incidents from last night:

Pastor Samuel: Ijaz you keep asking me for a verse which demonstrates the incarnate Christological (man-God) creed, well I’ve been providing it all along, here it is:

“In my vision at night I looked, and there before me was one like a son of man,[a] coming with the clouds of heaven. He approached the Ancient of Days and was led into his presence. 14 He was given authority, glory and sovereign power; all nations and peoples of every language worshiped him.” – Daniel 7:13-14.

Me: Pastor, did you even LOOK at the verse? It literally says that GOD was GIVEN authority, glory and power. That’s funny, because the very definition of God is an all powerful deity, how can an all powerful deity be GIVEN power?

If you that that was bad, this was even worse!

Pastor Samuel: Ijaz you’re confusing Greek mythology with Greek Philosophy, the belief in the Son of God in the Greek culture was mythology not philosophy, you need to study ancient Greek culture.

Me: Reminds the kindly Pastor that Plato and Pythagoras were seen as ‘the Sons of God’ and in Greek Philosophy (as quoted by the Apostle Paul himself!), all men were ‘like’ God because we all possess the faculties of ‘reason’.

I should have the debate uploaded to our channel in a day or two, God willing. There were a few technical glitches and timing issues last night, but we were able overcome these trials and have an eventful debate. At one point I lost internet connection and was unable to hear Samuel’s second rebuttal. The room itself was packed with 120+ persons, and to be quite honest I’m certain it went beyond this number, but because I was busy having a debate – I didn’t think to keep checking the room count, in any case there certainly was a significant turn out from both the Muslim and Christian communities.

Lastly, I’d like to thank Sister Waduha, our moderator who was fair and unbiased. This makes it 3/3 debates in which I’ve worked with her and she pulled out all the stops last night by gifting both Samuel and I a week’s worth of Paltalk Extreme, i.e. we get a full week’s service of the paid Paltalk experience.

In relation to the debate and my performance, I’ve been told by Muslims and Christians alike that perhaps my quotations and my use of them in my arguments seemed to have gone over the heads of most people. I presented an unbiased Christian historical perspective on the development of the incarnate Christology, something in which Pastor Samuel was not prepared for and it clearly shows in his rebuttals that he really didn’t know how to respond and so he went into a hundred and one directions and gifted me three smashing cross fire questions that seemed to put him into the hot seat!

Many have been asking for the sources of the quotes I used during my Opening Statement, rest assured that in the coming days, perhaps after my debate with Bob Siegel, I’ll put something together for the public’s use inshaaAllaah.

wa Allaahu ‘alam.

Christian Viciously Abuses, Insults and Attacks Br. Ijaz and Innocent Muslim Female on Paltalk

Today, I bring you approximately 10 minutes of a Bible believing, Christ loving, Church going, Muslim hating Christian named Larsen. He doesn’t like Muslims, actually, he hates us. To quote him, he says, “We are your enemies, we hate you and we hate you with a passion“. As you’d notice I reacted to his abuse in the way I react to all Christian abuse. I remained calm and collected, answered his questions, questioned his methodology and behaviour, this however, led to him stopping me from speaking and increasing in his anger, which caused him to verbally abuse me more.

At first he confused me with someone else, I for myself, do not own any rooms on Paltalk, then he confused me with someone else who he’s afraid to debate, therefore I asked him if he’d debate me, to which he gave a very strange and laughable reply. Feel free to listen to the audio. Once more, please remember that the ‘clicking’ sound in the background is me typing text responses to him.

Notice, he begins to call a Muslim sister:

  • Stupid
  • Scumbag
  • Disgrace
  • He even says, “I spit on you”.
  • Shame on you.
  • Nasty
  • Disgusting Filthy

Imagine, this is how a Bible believing Christian speaks to Muslim women, simply because they are not Christian!

and Allaah knows best.

Sam Shamoun’s Christian Followers are Mentally Ill

Update: Sent an email to Shamoun about his followers’ behaviour, I don’t expect a response since he condones these actions. If in the off chance he has the testicular fortitude to respond, I’ll gladly make it public – then again, he’s running away from me, so I wouldn’t expect that much.

Last night I had the unfortunate incident of finding myself the focus of attention for a group of Sam Shamoun worshipers on Paltalk, via a room named, “Dawah vs Christian Missionaries“. Traditionally, I don’t expect much from Paltalk Christian Missionaries, but I jumped in to see what all the fuss was about.

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Turns out, it’s a room full of Sam Shamoun supporters who did what their master taught them best. For a period of 10 minutes, I listened as various men and women belonging to the Christian faith, took an opportunity to speak out against me and the writings on this website. I stayed in the off chance that perhaps they’d offer some meaningful criticism, to the contrary I was cursed at by these group of Christian, Sam Shamoun fans by being called repeatedly:

  • Muslim beast.
  • Dumbass.
  • Idiot.
  • Fool.
  • Jackass.
  • Coward.
  • Child.

This unfortunately, is the legacy of the work of Sam Shamoun, his biggest fans on Paltalk (who had just announced a new recording of one of his lectures on the Jewish Saints being saved by Christ), found it appropriate (even the women amongst them) to engage in a tirade filled with abusive language and curse words. As a Muslim, I didn’t respond to them, there is no profit in me cursing anyone or behaving as if I am a petulant child. I think it’s very sad that many consider these missionaries to be representative of the Christian faith and it’s even more sad to know, that after Shamoun has left us, this will be the legacy he’d leave behind: foul mouthed angry zealots.

We pray for their guidance and I wish to let them know, all of them (CBD, Fyreflye, Dr. Chillosophy, etc), I forgive you because I’m a Muslim and I pray that one day you realise what you’re doing is not inviting me to Christianity by shouting and screaming and insulting me, you’re making yourselves look very desperate and unwilling to engage Muslims on an intellectual basis and have reduced your preaching Christianity to nothing more than insulting others to make yourselves feel better/ stroking your own egos.

I apologize to the Muslims who stayed in that room to listen to see what I would have told those missionaries, but I do not respond to threats or curses and I only stayed for those brief minutes in the hope that they would have the decency to realise what they were doing.

and Allaah knows best.

[Postponed] Upcoming Lecture: Unveiling Missionary Tactics

بِسۡمِ ٱللهِ ٱلرَّحۡمَـٰنِ ٱلرَّحِيمِ ,

POSTPONED TO SATURDAY NIGHT (9th).

In continuing with our monthly lectures (atleast once a month), this week I’ll be focusing on Missionary Tactics on the street, and if time permits, on the internet as well. Last week’s talk on Allaah’s love in Christianity and Islam lasted for an hour whereas it was carded for only 20 or 30 minutes, so I’d say to expect this talk to last for an hour or so as well. Unfortunately we had a recording issue with the first lecture but that will be sorted out, inshaAllaah (God willing) for this week’s talk.

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Hope to see you all there.

wa Allaahu ‘Alam.