Christian Muslim Dialogue in Dubai: Dr. Shabir Ally vs Pastor Thabiti Anyabwile
بِسۡمِ ٱللهِ ٱلرَّحۡمَـٰنِ ٱلرَّحِيمِ ,
Live stream is on now, be sure to check it out. Good discussion so far, solid talk.
wa Allaahu ‘Alam.
بِسۡمِ ٱللهِ ٱلرَّحۡمَـٰنِ ٱلرَّحِيمِ ,
Live stream is on now, be sure to check it out. Good discussion so far, solid talk.
wa Allaahu ‘Alam.
بِسۡمِ ٱللهِ ٱلرَّحۡمَـٰنِ ٱلرَّحِيمِ ,
After some time wherein he preached to the gentiles, and after 2 visits to the people of Corinth, they began to doubt in Paul’s apostleship. We don’t blame them and for good reason. This is what Paul has to say on the matter:
This will be my third visit to you. “Every matter must be established by the testimony of two or three witnesses.”2 I already gave you a warning when I was with you the second time. I now repeat it while absent: On my return I will not spare those who sinned earlier or any of the others, 3 since you are demanding proof that Christ is speaking through me. He is not weak in dealing with you, but is powerful among you. 4 For to be sure, he was crucified in weakness, yet he lives by God’s power.Likewise, we are weak in him, yet by God’s power we will live with him in our dealing with you.
5 Examine yourselves to see whether you are in the faith; test yourselves. Do you not realize that Christ Jesus is in you—unless, of course, you fail the test?6 And I trust that you will discover that we have not failed the test. – 2 Corinthians 13:1-6.
What’s going on here?
There’s a dilemma here. Paul’s only evidence is the ministry he’s done and established amongst the people. Thus, when they test themselves as verse 5 commands them to, they are either found to be faithful to Christ or not and through this, they will know the truth about their own faith. There’s a problem though, if Paul’s evidence is the ministry he’s established and when the people test themselves and find that they are not faithful, doesn’t that make him a false apostle?
Think of it this way. Let’s say I sell you a car, you purchase it but then begin to doubt my validity as a car sales man. To prove my role to be true, I challenge you to drive the car for a day, test it yourself and you’d see my remarks on the car were true. Yet, the car failed during that day, doesn’t that make me a bad salesman? This is exactly the case with Paul. It’s pure circular reasoning, the people greatly doubted him, thus his ministry was a failure, as the test he gave them was to test their own faith – which they lacked after their second meeting! Nonetheless, let’s see what John Gill’s Commentary had to say on verse 5:
Examine yourselves whether ye be in the faith,…. These words are to be considered in connection with 2 Corinthians 13:3 for seeing they sought and demanded a proof the voice and power of Christ in the apostle, he directs them to self examination, to look within themselves, to try, prove, and recognise their own souls; where if things were right, they would find a proof of Christ’s speaking in him, to them: he advises them to examine the state of their own souls, and see whether they were in the faith; either in the doctrine of faith, having a spiritual and experimental knowledge of it, true love and affection for it, an hearty belief of it, having felt the power of it upon their souls, and abode in it; whether, as the Syriac version reads it, , “ye stand in the faith”, firm and stable; or in the grace of faith, either of miracles, or that which is connected with salvation; and which if they were in it, and had it, is attended with good works; operates by love to Christ and to his people; by which souls go out of themselves to Christ, live upon him, receive from him, and give him all the glory of salvation: and if this was their case, he desires to know how they came by their faith; and suggests, that their light in the doctrine of the Gospel, and their faith in Christ Jesus, as well as the miraculous gifts many of them were possessed of, were through his ministry as the means; and this was a full proof of Christ’s speaking in him.
This last sentence is important. Miracles are what Christ’s ministry through Paul depended on. Yet miracles are for a weak people of faith, (Cf. Matthew 12:39: But he answered them, “An evil and adulterous generation seeks for a sign, but no sign will be given to it except the sign of the prophet Jonah), in fact, as stated before, miracles can be done by even faithless people:
For false christs and false prophets will arise and perform great signs and wonders, so as to lead astray, if possible, even the elect. – Matthew 24:24.
“Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?’ Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’ – Matthew 7:21-23.
So far, Paul’s own criteria to determine his own apostleship and claim to Christ have all failed. Perhaps there is a Christian out there willing to explain these things to us, however as it stands, from Paul’s own ‘tests‘, he is not and was never a true apostle.
wa Allaahu ‘Alam.
بِسۡمِ ٱللهِ ٱلرَّحۡمَـٰنِ ٱلرَّحِيمِ ,
This breaking news brought to you by CF News (US), a local news station:
A former Disney manager and local pastor who is accused of looking at child porn at work bonded out of jail early Thursday morning.
Pastor Cedric Cuthbert bonded out of the Orange County Jail and as a condition of his bond he is to have no contact with minors except for his 8 and 11-year-old sons. Disney officials told deputies about Cuthbert’s alleged activities while he was on the clock. He worked there for the past 7 ½ years. Investigators say he was watching child porn and sending messages to underage girls on You Tube from his work computer.
Disney officials say it didn’t seem like Cuthbert was trying to hide anything because they say he used his own password and login info to access the computers and download the child porn. Investigators also say he looked up the porn on the same computer he used to write his Sunday Sermons.
Cuthbert was a pastor at the Historic St. James AME Church in Sanford for the past three years. Cuthbert was let go from his job at Disney and has since apologized for his actions. He now faces multiple charges.
The fact that he worked at a child centric company and did these acts on the job is really disturbing, not to mention that he’s also a Pastor and may have had contact with children from his own Church.
wa Allaahu ‘Alam.
بِسۡمِ ٱللهِ ٱلرَّحۡمَـٰنِ ٱلرَّحِيمِ ,
A little back story. The missionary made some erratic claim about a hadith found in a collection not available in English, it’s called the Musnad of Abu Dawud at-Tayalisi. I asked the Missionary to provide the original source and he then stated he didn’t know it and that he’s never seen it, but rather this alleged English version of the hadith was just taken from a website. So I procured the ahadith collection, screenshotted the hadith and posted it. I even gave him the link to the text. Turns out he didn’t like that and flipped out. Here he threatens to have my account disabled by ‘mass reporting’ with his many ‘fake accounts’. Later he turned up in the School of Oriental and African Studies’ group (SOAS) and he was promptly banned for his petulant behaviour. This was his threat to me:
What an angry man. I can understand his frustration though. Here he is, doing the Lord’s work, trying to convert Muslims with some spuriously research garbage and all of a sudden, someone comes with actual research and study. It can be infuriating. My sympathies are with him.
wa Allaahu ‘Alam.
بِسۡمِ ٱللهِ ٱلرَّحۡمَـٰنِ ٱلرَّحِيمِ ,
The sheer absurdities coming out of this impostor’s mouth are absolutely mind blowing. I’m not sure whether to laugh at him or cry for him. Either way, Ergun Caner is back and he’s making himself more of a laughing stock to the Muslim community. Enjoy:
Much thanks to Br. Yahya Snow.
wa Allaahu ‘Alam.
بِسۡمِ ٱللهِ ٱلرَّحۡمَـٰنِ ٱلرَّحِيمِ ,
Amazing video, less than 3 minutes long. Worth the watch.
wa Allaahu ‘Alam.
بِسۡمِ ٱللهِ ٱلرَّحۡمَـٰنِ ٱلرَّحِيمِ ,
Think again….

wa Allaahu ‘Alam.
بِسۡمِ ٱللهِ ٱلرَّحۡمَـٰنِ ٱلرَّحِيمِ ,
In Islam, women are allowed to pray at our three holiest sites. The Kaabah in Makkah, the Masjid an Nabawi in Madina and Masjid al Aqsa in Al Quds (formerly known as Jerusalem). However, in Judaism, in Jerusalem, in the country that calls itself the only “democracy in the Middle East“, women are not allowed to pray at their holiest site.
What would FEMEN, the UN or the American Government say about Saudi Arabia, if women in buses were stoned, spit on, attacked by thousands of men for wanting to pray? The international world would explode in a joint effort to condemn Islamic misogyny. Yet, when its Jews or Israel, we hear silence from the “defenders of democracy“. According to this report from the BBC (UK), we read:
Three men have been arrested after police held back hundreds of ultra-Orthodox protesters trying to prevent a liberal Jewish women’s group from praying at Jerusalem’s Western Wall. It follows a recent court ruling that backed the women’s right to pray using rituals ultra-Orthodox Jews believe should be for men only.
Last month, police detained members of the women’s group for allegedly breaching a ban at the wall. The large group of demonstrators was at the wall when the women turned up to pray in the hours before Shabbat, the Jewish Sabbath. They threw rubbish, water and chairs at the women, and stoned their buses. Three ultra-Orthodox men were arrested for disorderly conduct, police said.
Where are the condemnations from Pamela Geller or David Wood? How ironic is it that the ultra-conservative Kingdom of Saudi Arabia affords women the right to pray at Islam’s holiest sites, but the democractic Israeli secular government in tandem with the Haredi Jewish population refuse women that same right? It would almost seem as if Israel is some 1434 years behind Islamic law. So far, the liberal and Christian world is silent. Be rest assured though, if this were Muslim men doing this to Muslim women, those same ‘fighters for equality‘ would be having a field day with this story.
wa Allaahu ‘Alam.
بِسۡمِ ٱللهِ ٱلرَّحۡمَـٰنِ ٱلرَّحِيمِ ,
Two recent events have called into question the delimitations of academic freedom in the ‘free world‘. Western educational institutions have always lauded themselves on being the bastions of modern intellectual thought, rationalism and research. Yet, there seems to be some sort of a ‘morality mob‘ or ‘political oligarchy‘ being practised within these institutions. For those who are unaware:
1. Sh. Abdal Hakim Murad (TJ Winters) was put to task for statements he made several years ago on homosexuality.
2. Dr. Stephen Hawkins was vilified for boycotting an Israeli academic seminar due to Israeli apartheid.
Why is there a need for Sh. Abdal Hakim Murad to be sacked for statements he made years ago? One anti-Islamic ignorant, Douglas Murray of The Spectator called the Shaykh’s statements bigoted, “Students, LGBT groups, unions – everyone wanting to make a stand against bigotry – would be screaming about this.” As far as I am aware, the Shaykh did not call for violence, abuse, hatred of, or mockery of homosexuals. He merely expressed his academic opinion on why he disagreed with homosexuality:
‘Stretch your imagination as you might, you cannot conceive of any abuse of the form which Allah has given human beings which is more extreme, more blasphemous, a denial of its manifest created purpose than the crime of the people of Lut.’
Where in this was a call for violence, hatred or abuse? Nowhere. In any culture, we have a standard of living referred to as norms and values. Academically speaking, it should be considered an ‘expected’ act of intellectualism, to challenge modern day norms and values. The Shaykh and Professor (by right of his educational standards) did no wrong by bringing into question the legitimacy of homosexuality as something which is ethical and moral in light of his religious beliefs. Moreso, his beliefs were not expressed on the Cambridge University’s platform, but on a religious platform, in which ethics and morality are bound to be discussed. Therefore, on what grounds are the Shaykh’s statements bigoted? They are obviously not. If the Shaykh had perhaps said that homosexuals should be banned from his classes, or refused the right to be educated, then perhaps then I can understand the furor, but for merely shunning a sexual act he considers to be gross abuse, I do not understand the outcry. If he were to have said that ‘incest was blasphemous‘, would there have been the same outcry? The same crusade against him? That in itself is also a sexual act which by today’s norms and values are okay in some parts of the world, but because the Shaykh disagrees with such an act, does he deserve to be persecuted? Rather, it is bigoted and spiteful to call for his sacking because he has voiced his opinion on a contentious matter. It is bigoted to want to have someone fired because they do not share your views or accept your personal code of ethics and morals. Britain’s Muslim Debate Initiative’s Br. Abdullah al Andalusi’s article is also a quite revealing read on the topic.
Another popular academic, Dr. Stephen Hawkin faced a mountain of abuse and mockery because he decided to join the boycott of the apartheid state of Israel. In a public letter, he stated:
The Palestinian Solidarity Campaign later released the full letter from Hawking to conference organisers, which read: “I accepted the invitation to the Presidential Conference with the intention that this would not only allow me to express my opinion on the prospects for a peace settlement but also because it would allow me to lecture on the West Bank.
“However, I have received a number of emails from Palestinian academics. They are unanimous that I should respect the boycott. In view of this, I must withdraw from the conference. Had I attended, I would have stated my opinion that the policy of the present Israeli government is likely to lead to disaster.”
According to several tweets via the social media website, Twitter, Dr. Hawkin was mocked about his illness which has crippled him for some time. The Huffington Post (UK) says on this issue, “Some of the ugliest responses to the boycott came on social media, with several accusing Hawking’s singling out of Israel for boycott as “anti-Semitism” and making distasteful comments about his disability.” One person even tweeted: “Just die Stephen Hawking #team #Israel.” You can view the abusive tweets via images on the Huffington Post’s website. When does it become acceptable and okay for abuse towards an academic because he does not share prevailing political views? If governments were to punish academics because of their political views, wouldn’t this be intellectual barbarism akin to the violent suppression of the Catholic Church towards European enlightenment? On what grounds is it okay that an academic cannot express his right to disagree with the violent, apartheid, inhumane actions of the Israeli government? Dr. Hawkin made no reference to the ethnicity of the Israeli people or to their religion, therefore why the cries of anti-Semitism? I do not hold it to be ‘anti-Semitism‘ when a secular government, consisting of European migrants is the antagonist.
Where does this leave us? Have the bastions of modern intellectual thought fallen prey to their own dogmatic and popular cultural prowess? Surely, none of the statements of either the Shaykh or the Prof. are bigoted in any manner, however the statements directed towards these two individuals because they do not succumb to the views of a few, cannot be tolerated. Such intellectual bullying, harassment and abuse are perhaps signs of a rising political-cultural oligarchy overcoming the field of contemporary academia.
wa Allaahu ‘Alam.
بِسۡمِ ٱللهِ ٱلرَّحۡمَـٰنِ ٱلرَّحِيمِ ,
In the following video, a gang of Hassidic Jews, attack and berate numerous non-Jewish people, hold a man against his will, subvert American laws and berate a woman, her child and her husband:
If this were Muslims, what would have been the outcome? Wouldn’t this make front page news on the aforementioned personalities’ websites? Here we have a group of Jews clearly acting in a thug like manner, enforcing their own rules and ideas upon goyim (non-Jews). If it were Muslims, wouldn’t it be ‘Muslim gang enforces Shari’ah – Abuse woman and children‘. I don’t expect a response from any of these despots, but this is just another case of their hypocrisy and hate.
wa Allaahu ‘Alam.
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